Session of November 29, 2012
Student Senate Minutes
November 29, 2012
Call to Order at 11:07am
- This meeting is now called to order.
- We have no minutes to approve, so we will move into Officer Reports.
- I talked to some people before Senate, but you are required to tuck your polos in. I don’t like calling out people in the meetings. I’m only doing it because it is the rules and I would appreciate it if you followed them.
- We will now move into Committee Reports.
- For the Professor Awards, we will be doing that next Friday in chapel. This was the only chapel I could get.
- There is no Student Life Committee meeting tonight.
- Any more Committee Reports?
- We will move into New Business.
- I move to bring a bill to the floor. [second]
- I also friendly amend the short title to be changed from 2010 to 2012.
Professor Awards Funding Bill of Fall 2012
- Are there any questions on the bill?
- Do we expect the Professors to show up to that chapel that no one goes to in order to receive their awards?
- They are changing the way that they do the Awards chapel.
- I am working on getting the Professors to attend the chapel, and yes, I heard that there is no awards chapel this semester and next semester it will be by school.
- Any debate on the bill?
- All in favor of approving the bill, say “aye”.
- All opposed.
[Bill is Approved]
- Any more New Business?
- Good morning everyone, I am the Inter-Society President and would like draw your attention to article 3; section d in regards to the residential club ban.
- Point of Order. Can he talk during “New Business”, since he is not a Senator?
- Wait, until Open Forum and then you can bring it up.
- We will now move into Old Business.
- We will now move into Open Forum.
- Sorry about that, basically everything I said before, and that I would like to discuss changing the by-laws as they pertain to stopping Intersociety from collecting funds. The basis for Intersociety not to collect funds is a misconception of us being a residential based organization. I would like to approach you about permanently settling this dispute.
- You said that anyone could be in Intersociety?
- Yes, we are just like a club you apply to be in. I was President while living on Penn 2.
- At this moment, are there any members that are not living in the Society housing?
- Yes, there are several.
- We are enforcing what the Constitution says.
- If you are saying that people aren’t living in the Society housing, then it’s not residential.
- The current thought process is that we are residents, just not in one place.
- To be on the Intersociety Council, you have to be in a Society, right?
- In LAS there are two members, one is married and the other is living off campus. As long as you are a current student, you are an acting member of the house.
- And it is not required for you to ever live in the house?
- No, it is not required.
- Only Society members can join and it isn’t available to everyone on campus. If we make an amendment, that specifically says that the Intersociety Council would get money, then other clubs could bring that up.
- You have to be a part of a society to be in the council. As in any club on campus, you have to first join and then be in it in any capacity. You join, and done. You don’t have to live in the house to be a member. The second thing, I understand what you are saying. Something like that could still be done honestly. Let’s say that I came up with the Nike Shoe Club of Penn 2. Other people could join, but it would be based on Penn 2. It is very easy for a club to be made in violation of this constitutional by-law, however, I believe in the student senate’s capacity to investigate such groups as they arise.
- The point you just made is exactly why the Constitution is written that way. If you guys want to change it as a general form of Senate, we would have to change the Constitution, because it is the wording.
- If someone was to make a Nike Shoe Club, Senate would know about it.
- Here is the problem that I see. Even though I understand that the people in the societies are allowed to live out of the house. Do the majority of them choose to move over? For most of our floors, those that live off campus or graduate, are still a part of the floor. I know that it is that way for my floor, we are always a 1A Panther. Once we start limiting this, the organization is still based around a living area, even if you don’t have to live there.
- With some longevity, I’ve always wondering about the wording of that bylaw. The thing that the bylaw was put there for was for how money was used, not who was asking for it. Any group recognized by Senate should be able to request money, and then you would have to decide individually to give it to them or not. They have legitimate events for the campus. If someone came up and said that they wanted to do something for Penn 1, then that’s floor funds. Figure out what you are considering and possibly just speak to the clubs in the bylaw. Make your bylaw say what you want. Just some friendly advice from your advisor.
- While that is true, the wording would be specifically changed. It’s not that FAC doesn’t want to give, we are stopped by the bylaws.
- What I’m feeling, is that you should have your Senator request that the bylaw be amended.
- In all practicality, it is virtually impossible to pass anything this semester. We don’t have ten days before the next meeting. If it happens, it will happen next semester.
- As a member of FAC, I wanted to point out that I think the real issue is not necessarily giving out money, but the precedent that it would make with the bylaws. What will we encounter with other floors?
- Since it’s also not able to get funding, we should look to amend that as well.
- I’d like to propose that we recommend this to the Constitutional Committee and a member of the Intersociety Council, of their choosing, can meet and discuss this.
- I move to send this to the Constitutional Committee. [second]
- Just a reminder, Deck the Mall is this Saturday starting at 1. We need a lot of people to show up and help decorate. If you could, try and show up 15 minutes early.
Motion to Adjourn at 11:33